Exclusive: Producer Robert Cooper Talks 'Stargate Universe' 

Reflecting on early optimism about the series
By Blaine Kyllo | Saturday, December 12, 2009
Stargate Universe hasn't had the easiest of starts. The fall finale, "Justice", drew the lowest ratings of the season and some critics and fans have given up on the series. We thought this would be a perfect time to reflect back to before the series even began, and to an interview with Robert Cooper, who, along with Brad Wright, is executive producer of SGU.Last August, Cooper sat down with CinemaSpy in his office at Bridge Studios in Vancouver to talk about the new series, which premiered on Syfy (Space in Canada) in October. What follows are his thoughts about Universe at a time when optimism about this new direction for the franchise was running high.
The affable Cooper told us that one of the big lessons learned from the previous two Stargate series was the importance of budget. Not simply the size of the budget, but how that budget gets spent.
In the production of SG-1 and Atlantis, Cooper said that the budgets often weren't large enough to realize the creative vision intended. "We tried, in many cases, to make a little movie every week, and we didn't really have the resources to do what a big-budget science fiction movie does. We sometimes reached a little too far."
Cooper, who directed the direct to DVD feature Stargate: The Ark of Truth said that he didn't want to try and make a feature film on a television budget. "I wanted to make 20 great episodes of television every season," he said. "And television's strengths are in telling extended stories about characters you want to learn about every week ... Some of the greatest characters that I've fallen in love with over the past 10 years have come from television, not the movies."
Case in point, SGU's ensemble cast is anchored by veteran screen actor Robert Carlyle.
Television, said Cooper, provides writers, directors and actors with an opportunity to tell stories over a longer span of time, and with a creative freedom that is lacking from much of the feature world where "everything is about the size of the budget and whether it's justified ... The movies are much more about spectacle now." We're taking a shot at doing something that we hope is going to be a breakout hit, not something that is a marginal success within the sci-fi world.
Cooper said SGU places story first, visual effects and setting second. "It's something I hope will allow people who aren't necessarily hardcore science fiction fans to embrace our show ... This show is less about technobabble and the hardcore spaceship tech stuff that tends to turn certain audiences off ... It's not about antiseptic people from the future or the past or another galaxy far, far away. It's about us in this incredible situation ... We wanted this show to embody our audience a little more. To be about people that you can identify with."
SGU, Cooper explained, is more of a human drama. "It's about a community of people who are stranded aboard this ship," he said, and like all good science fiction it's a microcosm of our own existence. "We've tried very hard to reflect a lot of the things that we are all going through. And that will, hopefully, touch people in some way when they watch."
"We're taking a shot at doing something that we hope is going to be a breakout hit," Cooper said, "not something that is a marginal success within the sci-fi world."
SGU is intentionally different from its predecessors, and that includes what the new series would look like and how it would be filmed. Cooper explained that they are using the verité style that was popularized by previous television programs such as Homicide and Firefly. In addition to creating a "voyeuristic pleasure" in the audience, Cooper said that they are "creating a situation where magic can happen."
In the past, he said, shots would be set up, and lit perfectly, and the actors would dropped in to rehearse, and when it came time for the camera to roll "it's very hard to get that magic to happen." With the verité style, though, where the cameras are back, moving around the periphery of a scene, and the lighting is more natural and built into the environment, "you're freeing the situation to have that magic happen naturally."
The actors, he said, "seem to come alive" when working this way. "I just find that in every scene you don't always get what you were imagining," said Cooper, "but you do get those moments that come out of nowhere that you capture that are these little gold nuggets, either a visual or a performance that was unexpected."
"We've tried to learn from our mistakes," Cooper admitted, "and if people want to accuse us of reaching higher, I'll take that criticism."
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human drama is ok but this is just bad and cheap drama!
Posted by gigi on December 22nd, 10:17am
Introducing drama and ‘deep characters’ in general is OK, but I don’t see that in SGU.
All I see is a bunch of characters whining and hating each other.
Even when they go through the gate, on a timer, before they go back to FTL, they still have beating each other up as their top priority.
Some ‘deep drama’ highlights:
- Dr. Rush shouting at everybody because of his caffeine withdrawal ?!?
- Telford screwing Young’s wife on and off because the stones malfunction ?!?
Is this ‘deep drama’?
BSG was overloaded with drama but you know what, it was quality drama. I liked it even though I’m not a drama fan.
But the drama in SGU is shallow, cheap – rivaling the worst of reality shows (and seems to be inspired by them in a way).
In many ways the ‘black and white’ characters of SG-1, even the more shallow ones such as the Goauld, were more intriguing than the characters in SGU.
Clearly drama is not the strong side of the stargate writing crew.
Also, if we are already addressing the series writers/producers, the idea of looking down upon their own fans for liking the previous series (SG-1/SGA) is quite arrogant to say the least.
They literally criticize their own fans for not liking the new concept, and have done so (sometimes even going as far as criticizing their IQ) on web interviews and blogs.
Something has gone extremely wrong among the stargate production team.
It is in fact quite puzzling.
As a big SG fan I have given SGU a chance and watched the first part of the season, and will watch the first couple of episodes of the 2nd part of the season coming in April.
If nothing changes I will have to accept that this is stargate from now on and unfortunately, listen to the advice of ‘if you don’t like it, don’t watch it.’
All I see is a bunch of characters whining and hating each other.
Even when they go through the gate, on a timer, before they go back to FTL, they still have beating each other up as their top priority.
Some ‘deep drama’ highlights:
- Dr. Rush shouting at everybody because of his caffeine withdrawal ?!?
- Telford screwing Young’s wife on and off because the stones malfunction ?!?
Is this ‘deep drama’?
BSG was overloaded with drama but you know what, it was quality drama. I liked it even though I’m not a drama fan.
But the drama in SGU is shallow, cheap – rivaling the worst of reality shows (and seems to be inspired by them in a way).
In many ways the ‘black and white’ characters of SG-1, even the more shallow ones such as the Goauld, were more intriguing than the characters in SGU.
Clearly drama is not the strong side of the stargate writing crew.
Also, if we are already addressing the series writers/producers, the idea of looking down upon their own fans for liking the previous series (SG-1/SGA) is quite arrogant to say the least.
They literally criticize their own fans for not liking the new concept, and have done so (sometimes even going as far as criticizing their IQ) on web interviews and blogs.
Something has gone extremely wrong among the stargate production team.
It is in fact quite puzzling.
As a big SG fan I have given SGU a chance and watched the first part of the season, and will watch the first couple of episodes of the 2nd part of the season coming in April.
If nothing changes I will have to accept that this is stargate from now on and unfortunately, listen to the advice of ‘if you don’t like it, don’t watch it.’
Not Scifi!
Posted by Jeff in Pa. on December 19th, 8:29pm
I loved the SG series,but universe is nothing but a soap opera.
If i want to watch people i can identify with i will watch Lifetime.
The voyeristic attitude of Universe is more suited to a reality show.
Please save the show and give us Science fiction with creatures from outer space and space ships, NOT soap opera.
If i want to watch people i can identify with i will watch Lifetime.
The voyeristic attitude of Universe is more suited to a reality show.
Please save the show and give us Science fiction with creatures from outer space and space ships, NOT soap opera.
It was a decent mid-season cliffhanger, and...
Posted by AlanB on December 14th, 8:52pm
I'll still be watching when the show resumes. For now.
That said, I'm VERY disgruntled. The showrunners sound like self-serving idiots. There is not one original thing about this show, they've simply copied a different new formula as pioneered by BSG.
It was difficult enough to stomach 4 years of grim and hopeless BSG. The brilliance of the writing and acting kept me coming back. Now we've got nothing but the dull and plodding echo. Not to mention being built on a foundation of SyFy's lousy budget process that has destroyed countless shows. By next year half the episodes will probably be two-character bottle shows so skimpy on plot they don't even *NEED* a reset button.
That said, I'm VERY disgruntled. The showrunners sound like self-serving idiots. There is not one original thing about this show, they've simply copied a different new formula as pioneered by BSG.
It was difficult enough to stomach 4 years of grim and hopeless BSG. The brilliance of the writing and acting kept me coming back. Now we've got nothing but the dull and plodding echo. Not to mention being built on a foundation of SyFy's lousy budget process that has destroyed countless shows. By next year half the episodes will probably be two-character bottle shows so skimpy on plot they don't even *NEED* a reset button.
Stargate Universe is a good show
Posted by Fsmn36 on December 13th, 10:36pm
In the sidebar there's a comment about most comments about SGU being negative. Based on those provided here, that seems a good indication. But I honestly suspect those who are leaving such comments are those bitter over the loss of SGA. And people who feel negatively are always going to be more willing to leave feedback than those who are quietly enjoying the show.
I admit, I miss SGA terribly. I enjoyed the light-heartedness of both SG1 and SGA. But there was a lot of potential neither show explored fully because they wanted it light in nature. SGU has given them that chance. While I'm a fan of the technobabble, I also highly support character arcs and characters who aren't knights in shining armor fighting the obvious dragon. No one complained that BSG was "too depressing". Or if they did, they stopped watching. SGU is it's own show and shouldn't be compared to those previously in the franchise. I don't even understand how it's too depressing. One person has died. The same thing happened in the SGA premier. There are still all the tricks of sci-fi to keep it from getting too down (as seen in Time).
SGU may not be the escape TV SGA, SG1, and Star Trek are, but it's good for sci-fi to force us to reevaluate ourselves. The characters are complicated, the actors wonderful, the set and scenes amazing.
I just wish I counted in these ratings because I'll keep watching until it gets cut, just like I did with SG1 and SGA. The show stands on its own and should be treated as itself, not in comparison to past shows.
I admit, I miss SGA terribly. I enjoyed the light-heartedness of both SG1 and SGA. But there was a lot of potential neither show explored fully because they wanted it light in nature. SGU has given them that chance. While I'm a fan of the technobabble, I also highly support character arcs and characters who aren't knights in shining armor fighting the obvious dragon. No one complained that BSG was "too depressing". Or if they did, they stopped watching. SGU is it's own show and shouldn't be compared to those previously in the franchise. I don't even understand how it's too depressing. One person has died. The same thing happened in the SGA premier. There are still all the tricks of sci-fi to keep it from getting too down (as seen in Time).
SGU may not be the escape TV SGA, SG1, and Star Trek are, but it's good for sci-fi to force us to reevaluate ourselves. The characters are complicated, the actors wonderful, the set and scenes amazing.
I just wish I counted in these ratings because I'll keep watching until it gets cut, just like I did with SG1 and SGA. The show stands on its own and should be treated as itself, not in comparison to past shows.
SG-U is depressing.
Posted by Larry Joslin on December 13th, 8:31pm
SG-1 and SG-A had some flawed characters but most were still noble and good at heart. The bad guys, for the most part, were the enemy aliens. The SG-U characters have no resemblance to real people. The cynicism and darkness that has found its way into SG-U must be from the hearts and minds of its writers. I think most of us see the world in a better light.
Realistic?
Posted by Morgause on December 13th, 6:39pm
Man, I wish the writers would stop slamming SG1 and SGA...I mean come on guys, your fans loved those shows. And to keep going on about "realism"...personally I admired SG1 for how realistic it was. So far SGU has been anything but "realistic". When filming SG1 they employed advisors from the US air force to ensure that everything was portrayed accurately and as it really would be were this the real air force. And I can say first hand that there really are incredible hero type people in the military. Richard Dean Anderson once asked the real US chief of staff whether there was anyone like O'Neill in the real US air force - the reply was "yes, and worse!".
SGU's "realism" is a joke.....firstly, the whole "communication stones" setup is ridiculous, for starters why did this random insignificant outpost have these incredibly powerful ancient devices? Secondly their use of the stones is laughable, as if the military would allow them to be used for personal reasons such as going back to visit your loved ones. Thirdly what the hell happened to the Stargate programme being classified? It seems that the Destiny crew have leave to tell any living relative all about the stargate programme...remember in SG1 when Sam couldn't even tell her father, on his deathbed, what she'd been doing? And the reactions of the loved ones when some random dude/chick turns up and claims to be their significant other in someone else's body are hardly "realistic". And as for the scene where Young in Telford's body has sex with his wife - as if the real military would allow that sort of crap? How was that anything other than the rape of Telford? Oh and what about when Eli and Chloe went out getting drunk in the bodies of others...um, security risk maybe? I could go on, and on, and on... Yeah, such a "realistic" show SGU is.
SGU's "realism" is a joke.....firstly, the whole "communication stones" setup is ridiculous, for starters why did this random insignificant outpost have these incredibly powerful ancient devices? Secondly their use of the stones is laughable, as if the military would allow them to be used for personal reasons such as going back to visit your loved ones. Thirdly what the hell happened to the Stargate programme being classified? It seems that the Destiny crew have leave to tell any living relative all about the stargate programme...remember in SG1 when Sam couldn't even tell her father, on his deathbed, what she'd been doing? And the reactions of the loved ones when some random dude/chick turns up and claims to be their significant other in someone else's body are hardly "realistic". And as for the scene where Young in Telford's body has sex with his wife - as if the real military would allow that sort of crap? How was that anything other than the rape of Telford? Oh and what about when Eli and Chloe went out getting drunk in the bodies of others...um, security risk maybe? I could go on, and on, and on... Yeah, such a "realistic" show SGU is.
I keep waiting for something to happen...
Posted by Jeff in Albuquerque on December 13th, 3:23pm
I had high hopes for this new series, being a diehard Stargate fan, and I like the "serious human interest" aspect as opposed to the previous tongue-in-cheek hero stuff of the past series, though the DVD movies have been very good.
But with Universe, I keep waiting for something exciting and thrillig to happen. To me, the series became more about the interpersonal conflicts than about survival. At some point people have to overcome their differences even a little to confront the greater challenge.
There were a couple of bright spots: flying the ship through the sun, going back in time, and I really like leaving Russ stranded on the planet. That made me way "Whoa!"
But come on, enough with going back to earth to see loved ones in someone else's body (really, would you make love to a stranger just because that person said he/she was your partner?) and having earth politics interfere with our "survival." Figure out the dang ship already and face new problems. After all, there's got to be a new threat or a problem to solve out there a billion lightyears from home.
But with Universe, I keep waiting for something exciting and thrillig to happen. To me, the series became more about the interpersonal conflicts than about survival. At some point people have to overcome their differences even a little to confront the greater challenge.
There were a couple of bright spots: flying the ship through the sun, going back in time, and I really like leaving Russ stranded on the planet. That made me way "Whoa!"
But come on, enough with going back to earth to see loved ones in someone else's body (really, would you make love to a stranger just because that person said he/she was your partner?) and having earth politics interfere with our "survival." Figure out the dang ship already and face new problems. After all, there's got to be a new threat or a problem to solve out there a billion lightyears from home.
Try harder, try again Robert!
Posted by alien0 on December 13th, 3:18pm
I know what they wanted to accomplish. But i also know that it's the worst crap that could happen to the sg franchise. you know what i mean..
sgu does the same to the sg franchise wich would do a salty coke for the coca cola franchise. the whole thing will backfire and blow up in their faces...
would be interesting to hear if they are still that exited after the steady and finally explosive decrease of ratings.
http://sgusucks.com
sgu does the same to the sg franchise wich would do a salty coke for the coca cola franchise. the whole thing will backfire and blow up in their faces...
would be interesting to hear if they are still that exited after the steady and finally explosive decrease of ratings.
http://sgusucks.com
Another perspective
Posted by honeybun on December 13th, 7:14am
I have watched stargate since I saw sg1 in '97 when I was 8. And I have stayed with it ever since. Was I excited for this new show? Honestly no, not to begin with. But as a fan I said I'd give it a shot.
And I was pleasantly surprised. I can see what they are trying to do, and I find it interesting. Has the first season had some misteps?
Yes of course, but what first season doesn't? Even beloved sg1 and sga have some bad (though loved in a camp way) episodes. But there have been moments of greatness in this show. Its finding its way, and I think has a lot of potential for really deep and weighty stuff, really interesting scifi exploration potential, and a new way of telling stargate stories.
I for one like that the characters are *more* ambiguous on this series than any other. It is more realistic. Sad to say, but some people really do have messed up lives. And I think that what we have seen is just how the characters start out, and we don't know where they are going or what is going to happen with them. And the journey could be interesting. Some could become better people through this experience; others worse. BUt the potential is there.
Bottom line is that there freshman seasons are not always solid and I am willing to stick it out and see where they are going with the second half.
And I was pleasantly surprised. I can see what they are trying to do, and I find it interesting. Has the first season had some misteps?
Yes of course, but what first season doesn't? Even beloved sg1 and sga have some bad (though loved in a camp way) episodes. But there have been moments of greatness in this show. Its finding its way, and I think has a lot of potential for really deep and weighty stuff, really interesting scifi exploration potential, and a new way of telling stargate stories.
I for one like that the characters are *more* ambiguous on this series than any other. It is more realistic. Sad to say, but some people really do have messed up lives. And I think that what we have seen is just how the characters start out, and we don't know where they are going or what is going to happen with them. And the journey could be interesting. Some could become better people through this experience; others worse. BUt the potential is there.
Bottom line is that there freshman seasons are not always solid and I am willing to stick it out and see where they are going with the second half.
don't like the company
Posted by Sliver on December 13th, 4:33am
I could identify more with the characters in SG1 and SGA, they were flawed but good people at heart and tried to do the right thing.
These SGU folk are, to a person, not nice people and I wouldn't want to spend any time with them in real life.
So I have no desire to spend even one hour with them on TV each week. Just not a pleasent experience.
If these are the kinds of people that the Stargate producers hang around with, I feel bad for them.
These SGU folk are, to a person, not nice people and I wouldn't want to spend any time with them in real life.
So I have no desire to spend even one hour with them on TV each week. Just not a pleasent experience.
If these are the kinds of people that the Stargate producers hang around with, I feel bad for them.
Remember
Posted by Beaudacious on December 13th, 2:06am
"We've tried to learn from our mistakes," Cooper admitted, "and if people want to accuse us of reaching higher, I'll take that criticism."
When you drink the water, remember the spring.
Chinese Proverb
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When you drink the water, remember the spring.
Chinese Proverb
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Stargate Universe
Posted by Science Fiction Fan on December 13th, 1:46am
I hope this guy is happy, the Stargate franchise is being destroyed by his new approach to using lifeless plots with a group of characters that are absolutely unlikeable.
The core viewer base for the franchise has finally given up and the new audience this show has been written for is not showing up in enough numbers to justify producing the show.
Maybe a new showrunner and some new writers needs to brought to the project and let these very tired guys find a project other than Stargate to ruin.
The only entertaining thing that has happened lately in the series is Dr Russ got knocked on his backside and left on some deserted planet. he probably will somehow get the ship to take him back to Destiny or maybe his character will just leave the show.
The core viewer base for the franchise has finally given up and the new audience this show has been written for is not showing up in enough numbers to justify producing the show.
Maybe a new showrunner and some new writers needs to brought to the project and let these very tired guys find a project other than Stargate to ruin.
The only entertaining thing that has happened lately in the series is Dr Russ got knocked on his backside and left on some deserted planet. he probably will somehow get the ship to take him back to Destiny or maybe his character will just leave the show.


Ratings for Stargate Universe dropped significantly for the fall finale, from 1.891 million live +SD viewers on November 20, to 1.340 million on December 4. These figures don't include live +7 Days ratings, which measure DVR-delayed viewing for the week following an episode’s broadcast, and where SGU gets a significant boost from delayed viewing. While Internet debate about the new series is lively, and even heated at times, the majority of those expressing opinions seem disappointed in the program for one reason or another. That said, speculation continues that Syfy will renew the series for a second season.







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"OMG! Stargate Universe is the best show on TV! I actually drove straight home and forgot to pick up my kids from the sitter because I couldnt wait to get home to watch! OMG! OMG! Im naming my next child Kino after SGU. I cant wait until the season starts again! So original and fresh and unlike anything else which has ever been made!"
Just LOL.
Go over to Amazon and check out the reviews for the DVD (which is not selling, btw). You will be ROTF. But even more amusing is what happens when you type the phrase "Stargate Universe is" into Google. Try it! You will be laughing for at least half a minute!